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Already an advocate of stricter gun control laws, U.S. Rep. Sean Casten, D-Downers Grove, this week voiced support for a national buyback program in the U.S. similar to the one implemented in Australia 24 years ago.
"If we passed all the greatest laws in the world, the guns are still out there," Casten told representatives of the Daily Herald and Shaw Media during an online endorsement interview Tuesday.
Casten is running for reelection to the 6th Congressional District seat. His Republican challenger in the Nov. 3 election, former state Rep. Jeanne Ives of Wheaton, was invited to attend but refused.
The availability of guns in the U.S. is a frustrating topic for Casten, who ousted six-term Republican incumbent Peter Roskam in 2018.
Casten has repeatedly called for a new ban on assault weapons to replace the one that expired in 2004. He also supports expanding federal law to mandate criminal background checks for all gun purchases, not just those made from licensed dealers as is now required.
Casten has backed red flag laws that permit police or family members to seek the temporary removal of firearms from anyone who may be dangerous, and earlier this year he and other lawmakers proposed legislation that would require gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms within 48 hours to prevent illegal trafficking.
In interviews and public forums, Casten has noted there are more guns in the U.S. than people and far more than any other nation – but a hard count isn't provable because no official record-keeping system for firearm ownership in the U.S. exists, according to the fact-checking website PolitiFact.
Regardless, according to various estimates, the U.S. leads the world in total private gun ownership and per capita gun ownership.
"We have too many guns," Casten said.
Casten pointed to Australia as a nation that's taken positive action on gun control.
Following a 1996 mass shooting that left 35 people dead, the Australian government adopted strict firearm regulations, including a ban on certain semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, licensing criteria and sales restrictions. Additionally, Australia launched a national buyback program for prohibited weapons that resulted in more than 700,000 weapons being surrendered, according to the U.S. Library of Congress.
Another gun amnesty program was held in 2018.
Casten, who has touted the success of gun buyback programs before, suggested the U.S. follow Australia's lead.
"They took a whole bunch of guns out of circulation, and they haven't had a mass shooting since," Casten said. "Why don't we do that?"
There have been shootings with multiple deaths in Australia since those laws were enacted, however, including at least one last year. But none have been as deadly as the 1996 attack.
Casten said Australian leaders used money as an incentive because they recognized reducing the number of privately owned guns would be "extremely difficult."
"Would it work exactly the same way, adapted to U.S. culture? I don't know," Casten said. "My interest right now is less about how to do that particular policy [and more about] let's start having the conversation."
Casten noted that the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides, an assertion supported by Justice Department statistics.
"We're not going to fix that with background checks or assault weapons bans," said Casten, who has proudly touted the F rating he received from the National Rifle Association. "Let's find a way to have fewer guns."
Although she didn't participate in Tuesday's interview and didn't respond to interview requests Wednesday, Ives' thoughts on gun control are public.
In an online forum Monday night, Ives said the government isn't enforcing the gun laws already in place.
Last month, the Ives campaign criticized Casten for saying "having small genitals is not a sufficient reason to own a gun" during a recent online forum. Casten made the comment after questioning why people need to own guns.
Casten subsequently called his remark a joke "about the toxic-masculinity that has infected this whole debate."
Ives also voted against several gun-control measures while a state representative, including proposals that created a 72-hour waiting period for gun purchases, created licensing rules for gun dealers and sought to create minimum age limits for people buying assault-style weapons.
Ives sponsored legislation allowing people to carry concealed firearms, too.
Ives has been endorsed by the NRA and received an A- grade from the group.
The 6th District includes parts of Cook, DuPage, Kane, Lake and McHenry counties.